I greatly hope that my future keeps on leading me to success.
Thanks for reading.
Thanks for writing, bottleofwater, and good luck with your future.
jlp
http://mybrainwobbles.com/2011/06/16/how-i-see-myself-part-iv/.
I greatly hope that my future keeps on leading me to success.
Thanks for reading.
Thanks for writing, bottleofwater, and good luck with your future.
jlp
almost chocked on my cornflakes this morning reading the story in my local paper, not too sure how to embed the link but the sutton guardian.co.uk will have the story now.. basically dave churchill worked for a local catering company and was moving a stack of tables with some sort of trolley and they toppled down landed on him he died 2 days later in st george's hospital.. i'd known him most of my adult dub life and he was an elder in my ex wifes congregation, he also gave our wedding talk, he is survived by his wife elaine , they never had kids.. during my dissent into "apostasy" he was selected as one of the elders on my jc because he knew me but during my jc he came across and as an arrogant,self righteous,argumentative down right rude pos certainly showed characteristics that i had never experienced before and along with his "mate" on my jc another bellend named stan rogers started this bad cop/good cop shit on me during the 2 weekends on meetings, the other 2 on my jc chairman geoff woodfield and rensford ming showed themselves to be decent men.
3 amazing incidents have be felled these 2 men in the years that followed my jc, events that i've rarely mentioned much over the years.. isn't karma an amazing thing.
You realize that if the boot was on the other foot, an exjw under the tables,
they would have said that it was Jehovahs justice,
even citing the example in a study article
well that depends on the world population.. .
if he had done it it 1914, he would only have killed 2 billion.. if he had done it in 1960, then he would have killed 3 billion.. if he had done it in 1975 ( so now we know why he didn't) he would only have had 4 billion to kill.. so is the question of when armaggedon will come, related to how many he wants to kill?.
interestingly this site ( but dont bother reading it all, its......well you'll see).
Troubledmind: I think your answer is the correct one.
Inbetween: Interesting what you said about Noah. I used to do a bit of carpentry myself. He had his work cut out just building the Ark!
The chart dipicts the time it took to reach billion milestone. Thats why it apears to have a wrong scale.
I posted this thread because I am really took with their idea of him exterminating so many billion people,and they can except it just like that: a normal action for a god of love. But I never gave it a thought when I was connected to the collective.
wobble: thats why it isn't worth even bothering to try and convince them.
well that depends on the world population.. .
if he had done it it 1914, he would only have killed 2 billion.. if he had done it in 1960, then he would have killed 3 billion.. if he had done it in 1975 ( so now we know why he didn't) he would only have had 4 billion to kill.. so is the question of when armaggedon will come, related to how many he wants to kill?.
interestingly this site ( but dont bother reading it all, its......well you'll see).
Well that depends on the world population.
If he had done it it 1914, he would only have killed 2 billion.
If he had done it in 1960, then he would have killed 3 billion.
If he had done it in 1975 ( so now we know why he didn't) he would only have had 4 billion to kill.
So is the question of when armaggedon will come, related to how many he wants to kill?
Interestingly this site ( but dont bother reading it all, its......well you'll see)
puts the world population at 3 billion in Noahs day.
http://ldolphin.org/popul.html
Should he call the Guiness Book of Records?
according to the holy wt, satan and his demons influence humans to do bad things.
as a result of the bad things that satan makes us do, we are going to be judged.
is that really fair?
Good point MrFreeze.
Unfortunately, the test master is an all powerful allknowing, always right god who plans to kill off 7 billion people,
(even more with the growing world population, if he doesnt hurry up).
I dont think he'll listen to your arguement.
i had a friend in the borg that i love and miss (the only one i miss for real) she got married and because she begged me to atttend her wedding i showed up after a loooong time at the kh (that was october 2010, never went back!
just for her i went that one time!
well, even though i faded and have almost zero communication w the jws every once in a while we exchage emails, typicall "i miss you" "take care" and "how's your life" kind of stuff.. she is respectful of my decision and never asks to many questions, but i make sure i always let her know i am ok and happy... so, this past weekend i emailed her just to say hello, i check my email today and have this..... "i think about you all the time too free!!.
Sir82:
Most JWs are miserable most of the time, but the consolation for them is always "Well, my life sucks, but at least I have the truth! Those poor suckers in the world have sucky lives too, and they don't even have the truth!"
That reminds me of a press reporter who had come back from North Korea.
He said that the population there knew that life was hard for them.
But at least it was better than in the outside world.
september 15th, 2011 watchtower, page 28, paragraph 13:.
"if a human overseer in god's organization provides you with instructions that seem extremely detailed, you might at times feel frustrated.
jehovah, however, is a perfect overseer who delegates generously and trusts his servants.
And hey, here's Andrew on pages 13-14, who quits his job because he's in a "nonneutral organization", even though he has a wife and two children.
Six months later:
We're out of a home now, but at least we're happy....... Oh, and jehovah loves us.
my friend called round before and has just left.
he told me that he was worried about me and that he wanted to speak to me as to why i havnt been going to the meetings or on the field service.
i told him that im just not discussing the reasons at all.
Many parents ask the question:
what would I do if my son (or daughter) tells me he's gay.
I think that most would accept it as our childrens happiness is the most important thing.
One would imagine then, that god, as our father, would have the same attitude, since we are made in his image.
I'm glad that you have found a happy road to be on.
Good luck.
this recent mother jones article is pretty illuminating as to how defense mechanisms kick in when cherished beliefs are threatened by new information.
all the responses discussed--discrediting the source, denying the validity of the evidence, etc.--are, no surprise, exactly the strategy employed in wt publications discussing biblical criticism, evolution and other contradictions to the wt worldview.
what i found interesting was that such emotionally-driven responses feel like rational responses to the individual because the emotion to preserve belief systems kicks in before the analytic response.
A very interesting article. Thank you.
If you accept that you had it wrong then you are obliged to change: or disband.
As we have heard so often said by JWs ( and its really rather sad)
"where will we go away to?"
"Invisible Pink Unicorns are beings of great spiritual power. We know this because they are capable of being invisible and pink at the same time. Like all religions, the Faith of the Invisible Pink Unicorns is based upon both logic and faith. We have faith that they are pink; we logically know that they are invisible because we can't see them." - Steve Eley